We only have a comparison … If we go by anime canon, Gogeta is probably far stronger than Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken and Evolved Super Saiyan Blue since Goku and Vegeta resorted to fusion to fight Broly instead of using any of these forms, alongside with those statements. Zeno is a being who can erase all of existence in the blink of an eye. He GODSTOMPED a beerus/mui goku level character while suppressed. Gogeta wasn't even using his full power against broly and Goku even says he might be stronger than beerus. Beerus is too lazy for all of that. And has Beerus never used his full power in the anime? To submit a battle, click the Goku vs Superman (or Doom vs Vader) button above. Users may not make more than 5 Posts per day. Sure it's not actually happened by anyone other than Zeno, but TOP Goku scales so far above SSG Goku that it would be a little ridiculous to assume he isn't capable of it. (Christmas). Lol at him soloing. He can dodge all of Gogeta's attacks, and he can one shot him with Hakai. [â]KingPWNinater 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children), "There isn't anything that Lord Beerus can't destroy", [â]Goku4869 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago* (2 children). While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's intense rivalry has brought out an exceptional power. He is currently the strongest fusion out there as … This isn't his full power and is a showing of feat that jiren nor goku have. Jiren is confirmed stronger than Belmod, thereâs no confirmation on where Belmod ranks among the rest of the GoDs, Beerus could still be stronger. At the height of the power weve seen them have on screen (so that's Gogeta Blue when he fought Broly) (edited by administrators) Gogeta Autonomous Ultra Instinct (ability) Autonomous Ultra Instinct Dragon Ball Super: Broly. Beerus said "now we're getting somewhere" about Gogeta, who Broly couldn't keep up with, showing Gogeta is starting to reach the realms of Beerus' power. He was even ready to erase Goku at one point, without the need to even power up. Comments that are a few words and contribute no actual discussion ('lol' or '___ stomps'). It was confirmed that Ultra Instinct Goku is stronger than the Gods of Destruction including Beerus Wrong. Try outlining arenas, special conditions, multiple rounds and specifying the universe/version of characters if you're looking for a good discussion. Hakai has shown to be close range, far range and as energy releases. I think team 2 can take it mainly because of Jiren. Team 1 with Gogeta has the MVP. that statement was replaced by beerus was " What an Unbelievable guy", so if beerus is in mui goku level and that goku defeated jiren than its pretty obvious that beerus> jiren. nonetheless every else is fine. Since Goku himself was nowhere near Beerusâ level of power even at his strongest form at the time which was SSBKKX20 and we both saw what happened when that form of Goku clashed with someone who was stated to be at the realm of the gods of destruction needless to say he didnât fair very well. unknowingly downplay. Poll Gogeta and Beerus vs MUI Goku and LB Jiren (59 votes) Team 1 68% . But we've never had an accurate scale for it. That also happened in the anime, his power and Goku's nearly destroyed the universe, so he had to erase it. Being able to destroy 2 universes in one shot is literally the requirement of being 2-C. Team 2 stomps, Gogeta needs a better teammate. [â]SSG_Goten 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children). The feat you are talking is a space-time warping feat from what I can see, it is pretty impressive but Majin Buu did a similar thing way back in the Buu Arc (althought that dimension was already connected to Earth), but this time is much more casual too. Beerus should be much stronger than both sidra and toppo. Beerus also stopped the universe 7 destruction, I'd say that's pretty high showings compared to Jiren at least. We were given literal, direct statements to it. remember the diffrence between ssj 3 goku and ssjg goku? Be nice and we'll respond in kind. This more or less establishes the fact that MUI Goku would be stronger than Beerus. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: Find a flair you like, click it, and send the message it brings you to exactly as-is. He wouldn't even need Blue, he could easily do it with SSJG and maybe even pull it off in a hard fought battle in SSJ3, and that's if you say MUI Goku and Beerus are equals. The only way to prove it is by comparing the power up diffrences. Send us a message we'd love to help you with your thread. this feet itself is already impressive enough for gogeta soloing this due to him being suppressed is already well above beerus and jiren so him going all out makes it a stomp. If Goku and Jiren manage to win before that team 2 takes it. Ultra Instinct. UI Beerus + Hakai form is a force to be reckoned with, that I think alot of people on this sub unknowingly downplay. Comments consisting of a single image or gif to provoke drama or as a non-responsive reply to the thread. They were seriously injuring each other and would've destroyed both U6 and U7 as collateral if the Angels hadn't stepped in. Jiren, in the anime, is confirmed stronger than Beerus. Can the US Military replace Santa Claus for one Christmas? @takenstew22: Beerus is stronger than Toppo and it was stated Toppo hasn’t mastered destruction energy yet. We have seen the Hakai technique being overpowered in the show itself. It might not have specifically said he was stronger than Beerus, but his reputation and displayed power should say enough. A full powered MUI Goku might be an annoyance but Beerus just needs to outlast him. 1 Attack Dialogues 1.1 Super Attacks 1.2 Meteor Attack 2 Match Dialogues 2.1 Sparking 2.2 Team Dialogues 2.3 Match Reset 2.4 Shenron 3 Miscellaneous Dialogues 3.1 Character Selection 3.2 Intro 3.3 Victory 3.4 Defeat 3.5 Results Screen 4 Navigation An asterisk (*) detonates that character has two different lines. [â]Galaxy_Megatron 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (15 children). @takenstew22: Considering Vegeta alone is stronger than Toppo, and how Goku said full power Broly is “maybe” stronger than Beerus, and how Beerus was finessing multiple gods of destruction at once in the manga, I would say it’s fairly obvious. and if you add beerus here who has million+ years exp, Hakai and also incomplete ultra instinct than team 1 absolute destroys team 2 with mid to low diff, the only problem team 1 will be facing is mui gokus dodge hacks. Beerus was terrified of a Jiren who wasnât even showing a hint of his true power does that mean heavily suppressed Jiren > Beerus then? The penalty for breaking the rules of this sub, contributing to spam, trolling, or purposefully making things more difficult for the mods may include being banned. We saw the diffrence between normal ssj and ssjg in the manga and anime. Whis makes another statement in the anime saying that Mastering Ultra Instinct would result in Goku/ Vegeta surpassing Beerus. We issue warnings if we believe the user means well but we are not obligated to do so. Not to mention, that Beerus would need to go through Whis, Zeno's guards, then the Grand Priest before he'd even have a chance to face off against Zeno. Even in the Broly Movie, Beerus was on Earth, just chillin'. Going by your logic Beerus should be able to erase all of them so that shouldnât be an issue for him. Krillin is a human from Earth and one of the characters … [â]armchair_science 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). re: Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue quote GohanAntifan93 Gogeta Blue > Super Saiyan Full Power Broly > Super Saiyan Gogeta >Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku > Jiren > Ultra Instinct Goku Factually Jiren is stronger than Belmod yes but aside from that everything else is headcanon or theory until proven otherwise. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. can earth ( marvel ) survive a a tyranid invasion, 3 minmaxed Skyrim stealth archers vs the sly cooper trilogy. He can dodge all of Gogeta's attacks, and he can one shot him with Hakai. It makes no difference when going up against Jiren now. Was that confirmed? A.Whis is way more powerful than Beerus is. Hakai was never used on frieza or goku it was just a small ammount of GoD energy that was overcome. MUI Goku and LB Jiren are also individualy stronger than SSB Goku and Vegeta so this doesn't make any sense. Can a guy with a gun kill a bender from avatar? REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 4451 on r2-app-056d814da82db5a71 at 2020-12-24 01:58:11.803593+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: FR. Beerus using UI is not canon, the fight of the Gods of Destruction battle royale was not canon, in the anime they never stated whether Beerus can use Ultra Instinct … Beerus shouted. Furthermore, Full power SSJ Broly couldnât even land a single finger on Gogeta once he used SSB. They don't individually scale to their combined power output unless you mean Beerus's power is equal to Beerus's and … Then Goku is pretty much dead. Manga Beerus knows Ultra Instinct (Omen), and judging how full powered Broly couldn't even touch a casual Whis, I'm giving it to Beerus, assuming he can also use UI. Jiren sacrificed and sacrificed every year, more and more of himself. Beerus never used his full power in the anime? And even though Gogeta Blue can give Jiren a legit challenge in his base form, he gets completely outclassed against LB. Jiren fp >=< goku ultra instinct >= beerus > jiren supressed >> kaioken 20x goku >>> ssb goku The gaps are way bigger + a weaker fusion so i dont think so. Goku only became on the same level as Beerus once he got UI. we have never seen beerus at full power but according to the manga him and quitela are strongest of the 12, ultra instinct mastered was implied to have surpassed beerus in a shonen jump magazine but that was never fully executed in the actual episode. SSJB Gogeta is only “possibly stronger than Beerus”Tries citing a movie that doesn't have complete 100% compatibility with neither the Anime nor Manga and doesn't even get the fact right; it was Broly, not Gogeta. According to what we know right now, Gogeta would probably stomp. Gogeta is on a whole over level though. unknowingly downplay. He was likely at full power when he fought Champa after the baseball game. Anime-wise, he could have been surpassed (well, he has by Jiren and UI Goku but I meant by Goku Blue Kaio-ken x20/Vegeta Blue Evolution) or he could simply be 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times stronger than he is right now, we simply just don't know. Fusion also allowed Goten and trunks to fight way above their individual level that was a significantly bigger boost than any transformation. If you're going to repost try to broaden or change the discussion to keep it fresh. Well, the movie hinted at him having to use 80% to fight Goku, and 100% to stop a universe busting attack. Is Gogeta strong enough to take out the GoD? Oh hell yes. All posts must be flaired. B. Whis has a complete mastery over his ultra instinct. [â]TheShrubberyDemander 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (14 children). I can see Gogeta defeating the other team, especially with the help of Beerus. A.Whis is way more powerful than Beerus is. Honestly, there's no reason not to believe him entirely, he was talking seriously about the matter. Beerus is all hype and weird percentages regarding his power. Assuming Gogeta will have the same Goku as the Goku in the other team he stomps. As for Gogeta learning UI during the fight, it's too uncertain to consider. Even in the Broly Movie, Beerus was on Earth, just chillin'. Even if you were to give a little wiggle room, Jiren got a massive power spike, he'd easily be ahead of Beerus by then. Gogeta >>>>> UI Goku > Brolly >=< Jiren >=< Beerus It’s ambiguous between the last 3 however UI is stronger than all 3 but is close. Even the fully mastered state of the gods, Ultra Instinct, falls short to the jewel of universe eleven. Regardless, Jiren has far better showings imo. It would be weird and inconsistent if he weren't stronger than Beerus. re: Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue quote Vegetto Blue The Saikyo Jump editorial office tells readers: "Frankly, the enemy Goku … You can't call it headcanon, even if you want to question how strong Whis's conviction was there. If you ask us how to do it, we'll know you didn't read this. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. If you see a large number of posts about a character, try someone else. [â]Goku4869 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (4 children), Manga Beerus knows Ultra Instinct (Omen), and judging how full powered Broly couldn't even touch a casual Whis. I didn't read the Manga yet so I can't say anything about this. Vegeta got a new powerful transformation that's about equal to Blue Kaioken x20, and he used his most powerful attack against Toppo to take him out, so I wouldn't say he's far below Beerus at all. BattleSSB Gogeta vs Beerus (self.whowouldwin). Yeah but the manga at least seems more consistent to debate in many aspects (like the shockwave feat, which is much more clear im the manga than in the anime in my opinion), but debating the anime is fine too. [â]armchair_science 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (9 children). Not an easy match up for Gogeta. By TOP universe busting isn't even that impressive. I thought there were a couple moments where he was but was stopped. Until actual statements corroborate that and have actual confirmation as to where they rank itâs all a bit up in the air which is part of mystery about gods they seemed to be going for imo. Also proof that Beerus has a big enough power advantage over SSB Gogeta for Gogeta to be unable to overcome his imperfect ultra instinct through sheer power like Jiren did against MUI Goku. Ssj vegito was massively stronger than potential unleashed Gohan. The anime is quite weird as the shockwaves had bizarre properties were growing stronger and stronger and Old Kai said that everyone, including Beerus and Goku would perish, Beerus also said he needed 100% of his power to stop the shockwaves (he could be lying but keep in mind the bizarre properties of the shockwave). Posts must be some form of battle, competition, or challenge or they are considered off-topic/META and should go in our weekly off-topic discussion posts. [â]Galaxy_Megatron 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children). Goku has stated in the movie that Broly maybe even more powerful than Beerus which should place Broly at the realm of the gods destruction and Gogeta absolutely stomped him with a smile on his face. Gogeta was pushed to Blue by Broly, who MIGHT BE stronger than Beerus based only on the power Goku saw of Beerus. There's some dispute about translation, but I think "probably" is the correct term used. Posts with no details or specifications whatsoever. 1 Attack Dialogues 1.1 Super Attacks 2 Match Dialogues 2.1 Sparking 2.2 Team Dialogues 2.3 Match Reset 2.4 Shenron 3 Miscellaneous Dialogues 3.1 Character Selection 3.2 Intro 3.3 Victory 3.4 Results Screen 4 Navigation An asterisk (*) detonates that character has two different lines. Not to mention the diffrence between ssj and ssb. Even with a power boost it wouldnât automatically make him stronger or on the same level as the other GoDs because the power gaps would vary, e.g Goku getting SSJ1 was impressive because he surpassed Frieza but that same SSJ1 wouldnât have compared to the androids or Perfect Cell. Use your best judgment. The following post types and comments have been deemed low-quality by the community and may be removed. I was using the manga because of the movie's odd continuity including them both. "Fusion. [â]SSG_Goten 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (4 children). He wasn't even scared by Broly's power, to the point where he just chilled with Bulla all day. Even Beerus can’t get Ultra Instinct correctly. Seal Team Six is tasked with infiltrating Kevin McAllister's compound and killing him. its to big and add ssb to it , it turns to an unholy stomp in favor of gogeta. Apologies go a long way if you mess up. Team 1. Don't see why Gogeta couldn't/wouldn't learn UI during the fight. Fusion is generally> the strongest non fused character. Sure hes stronger than HIS GoD but that doesn't mean Belmod is stronger than Beerus. and how Beerus was finessing multiple gods of destruction at once in the manga, I would say it’s fairly obvious. He doesn't know exactly when they're coming, but ever since his second run in with Harry and Marv, his house in constantly boobytrapped and he's spent 28 years honing the art of being: HOME ALONE. He has got serious in the anime a few times (only when fighting with Champa) but we have never even been given a reference or a hint to anywhere near his full power. We encourage the upvoting of all relevant content and have a wide definition of what's acceptable. [â]KingPWNinater 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (5 children). Rendered by PID 4451 on r2-app-056d814da82db5a71 at 2020-12-24 01:58:11.803593+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: FR. "Gogeta!" @alextheboss: Destruction energy probably won't really do much. Characters weaker than Jiren and UI Goku like Golden Frieza and SSJBE Vegeta have resisted Hakai. [â]CantStopTheRob 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children). Not to mention, that Beerus would need to go through Whis, Zeno's guards, then the Grand Priest before he'd even have a chance to face off against Zeno. Beerus is unquantifiable, but it would be a safe bet to assume he's below Jiren. ... TC always insists SSB Fusions are weaker as a whole in the franchise and REREAD the title. Team 2 should take it handily. @thekappa78: eh, it was not supposed to mean gogeta ssj > Jiren or UI lol. Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta vs Ultra Instinct Goku. Posts with a clear political or social agenda. Beerus literally stopped the destruction afterwards. After all Beerus needs to be more powerful Gogeta for Gogeta to be unable to resist his hakai. Thereâs no actual evidence that Belmod is stronger than Beerus aside from Whis joking to which Beerus replied it was only an arm wrestle, thereâs also no timescale for that and could have been when Beerus was a younger GoD and not as strong. Those aren't even impressive though.. SSJG Goku clashing with Beerus was threatening the Universe in the same way. As with posts, the comments are not a place to promote a political or social agenda. UI boost is also huge but not as big as from ssj to ssb. Not an easy match up for Gogeta. He can dodge all of Gogeta's attacks, and he can one shot him with Hakai. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. That should say just how good Jiren's reputation is. And we've seen him do it with extreme ease. Is there anything new from DBS after ToP and the Broly/Gogeta movie? I donât remember seeing that in the movie (though itâs been a while). If you do not properly flair your post, or reply incorrectly to a post because you didn't know the difference between 'Battle' and 'Scan-Battle', you agree to forfeit to us your soul in perpetuity or another soul of equal or greater value. There's also those that claim Goku doesn't know Beerus' full power, although from a manga standpoint that's false as Beerus had no reason to hold back in the God of Destruction battle royale, which Goku witnessed. "Ultra Instinct Goku is … Beerusâ only two feats with the move have been against two characters who are fodder compared to him. In reality Beerusâ actual power is something theyâve kept ambiguous so that when they do use him they can say that he was always that strong at full power so thereâs no asspull, it also seems very unlikely that if Beerus was ever surpassed by Goku that theyâd make such a little deal like they did (yes UI was impressive and all that but no statements were made confirming strength and Beerus was most likely just impressed Goku achieved such a form). Proof that Beerus is powerful enough to one shot SSB Gogeta with hakai? Goku and Vegeta are also implied to at least know just how much of a gap is between them and Beerus back in Anime RoF since they both cucked down at the mere thought of facing him and have almost faced sleepy Beerus' unrestrained attacks. And we've seen him do it with extreme ease. Admit when you don't know. [â]armchair_science 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). Jiren in his base form is already GoD tier and his final form well exceeds any GoD. Beerus is a weak link. For more information click here. Could Santa convince Thanos to not rid of half of the population? Copy-pasta, Circlejerk or Meme derivative posts. Be nice. @alextheboss: I don't agree with Broly being stronger than LB Jiren, but yeah he's atleast in the same tier. Same with Champa. C. Ultra instinct doesnât make you untouchable even the completed version as evidenced by MUI Goku vs LB Jiren. Vegeta overcame toppo who wouldn't be on the same level as belmod to produce a hakai to counter full power vegeta attack but he could have easily erased him multiple times as shown from their match. Though Gogeta probably has more raw power. Meruem (Hunter X Hunter) Vs Chainsaw Man (Chainsaw Man). Jiren was set up as a person who has surpassed the GoD of his own universe and with no real statements or feats as to how that GoD ranks with the rest and could have been the weakest GoD for all we know. Threads asking how X character would do with a Y-Colored Lantern Ring are not allowed. it means the jump from ssj to ssb is bigger than ssb to jiren or UI. He wasn't even scared by Broly's power, to the point where he just chilled with Bulla all day. re: Ultra Instinct Gogeta vs Whis Whis sleeps on the likes of Broly and Beerus so if he puts any effort into the UI Gogeta fight at all it would be low-diff. And it pissed me off that they didn't have their unique stuff. As for MUI Goku and SSB Gogeta I think MUI Goku can take it because of his speed and reaction time which is pretty much the best we've seen in Dragon Ball yet. Comments that are memes for the sake of memes will be removed as well. Distasteful posts for the sake of being "edgy". Downvoting will never be allowed on this sub. [â]Georgepaul4k 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children). Beerus is undoubtedly weaker than Jiren and Goku and Gogeta is hard to gauge where he would place. And LB Jiren is almost on par with MUI Goku so again, it's basically 2 MUI level characters against Beerus and Gogeta Blue and none of them has MUI. Meta posts, multi-part tournaments, and other non-conventional posts require mod approval. and how Goku said full power Broly is “maybe” stronger than Beerus. Unsure of a good way to make your fight more interesting than just "X Character vs. Y Character"? MUI runs out quite fast. Brolly who is stated to be stronger or close to Beerus in power, got treated like a child having a tantrum by Gogeta. Meaning Broly, and Jiren are non factors in this fight as neither of them have any hax. Only the Manga. Jiren before he went Limit Breaker was already stronger than Belmod, who might not be as strong as Beerus, but it still says alot. [â]armchair_science 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). it was referring mui with the text being " Gokus hair and aura starts to glow SILVER. [â]Goku4869 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago* (0 children). This is not headcanon, we have statements that matter here. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. May 1, 2020 - Explore Stacey Green's board "ultra instinct vegito & gogeta", followed by 526 people on Pinterest. Always admit it up front if you're unfamiliar with a character. Remember, the mods are humans, and we realize you're human, too. Present Zamasu ( who was weaker than even SSJ2 Goku.). However, he saw Jiren's full power, and a huge power up on top of that. Not only his he skilled, he has abilities that can destroy both of them with ease. See more ideas about dragon ball, dragon ball z, gogeta and vegito. @sup3rn0va: what makes jiren stronger than beerus? I think beerus and gogeta overpower jiren as he tries to tank something and they eventually tag Goku. Beerus isn't 2-C because he cannot destroy 2 universes alone. Furthermore, If Beerus was truly capable of destroying anything his reaction to Zeno wouldnât be like this. No, never, not even remotely close. And that was before his power boost. Ultra Instinct Goku is stronger than SSJB Gogeta Dragon Ball - General ... things even more confusing and complicated by bringing in Merus in a debate that was about the anime version of UI Goku vs Beerus. Since LSSJ Broly is on Beerus' level, then yeah, SSJB Gogeta would have a win here. There's also Dragon Ball Heroes but that's non-canon. His shirt wouldn't even come off. I think it’s pretty clear SSB Gogeta is the strongest here, and fusion lasts longer than UI, so I have a hard time seeing Gogeta and Beerus lose. After all he wouldnât even dare confront the Grand Priest when his existence was at stake in the ToP instead he tried to ask Whis to bribe his father to ensure his survival. [Star Wars]General Grevious is made out of pure Beskar. Limit Breaker Jiren should be handily above Beerus, especially since he was giving Goku a hell of a fight when he mastered a technique Beerus couldn't. [â][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child). You can be banned for a first offense. @takenstew22: Well it wasn’t pretty evident to Goku that Broly was stronger than Beerus. Whis also says this to Vegeta when he fights Beerus in the manga and loses the fight. Yes because arm wrestles are a lot different than an actual fight and when Beerus refuted it was actually a lot calmer than how heâd react if it wasnât true. This now includes "You vs" posts as of 29/10/2018; details on why are included in this modpost. MUI Goku vs Gogeta. [â]Jamano-Eridzander 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). So he does have an actual scale, thinking about it. "Your Favorite/Least Favorite" character threads are not allowed due to lack of discussion these types of threads generate. Not an easy match up for Gogeta. Failure to treat your fellow users with respect can lead to a warning or ban. More like he is scared to death of them and is incapable of doing anything to them or at least thatâs the case as far as Whis and his dad and Zeno are concerned. Report rule breaking and leave rule enforcement to the mods. If asked, you must provide evidence for your claims or drop the argument. Gogeta is the Metamoran Fusion of Goku and Vegeta, formed save the entire DBS Multiverse from jeopardy. Spoilers - : [Text Text Text](#spoil "Hidden text"), Mobile-Friendly Spoilers - How to input: [Spoil](/s "text"), MegaMeta - Compilation of Approved [Meta] Posts, Character of the Week/Team of the Month Archive. while UI‘s boost was huge , it seems ppl are simply to slow to realize how huge the fusion boost was in the movie. But the fact is, even taking that into consideration, Jiren was set up as someone even a God of Destruction could not beat, and then got a power up on top of that. 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