Vegeta tells Goku that he cannot beat him with attacks like that, as Duplicate Vegeta aggressively pushes Goku back. Combat. Who's Gonna Win? Excluding Goku/Vegeta, could the z fighters have won vs nappa in sayian saga? Let’s say vegeta goes ssbe and gives every bit of power he has to mui goku then dies. Vegeta's body grows back to being solid, and Trunks happily hugs him. Potage notes that even though the core was destroyed, time has ran out and Vegeta is disappearing. English Trunks reminds him that if the clone is not beaten, then he dies. How Fat Boo is the strongest form of Boo: The Saiyan thirst for a challenge. Kid Boo only seemed powerful because he could still overpower Goku and Vegeta, which any form of Boo already proved they could already do. That’s a mistranslation in the FUNimation dub that everyone likes to spread around for some reason. Commeson takes advantages of this and quickly attacks Trunks. June 5, 2016 5 years ago. 0. Trunks asks if there is another way to save Vegeta, as the fight could get very violent, and Potage suggests that the core of Commeson should be crushed, so its copies can become weaker. Goku, realizing this is his chance, fires a God Kamehameha at Duplicate Vegeta, disintegrating him. Vegeta Disappears?! Maybe from the instant kaio ken 1 failed to stop Vegeta, he might of had the feeling that he’d lose. Now let’s take Post-Crisis Superman and pit him against Goku. Dragon Ball Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. SSJ1 Goku with a power-up from Piccolo, Trunks, Gohan, and Vegeta made Goku powerful enough to beat Broly in a single punch. No Z warrior was ever shown damaging Fat Boo. It’d be like asking who would win in a fight between Charlie Sheen and some other being in some other dimension. A draw. The opposite might be true for Superman. So even if Superman is on top of the fight, he would be wise to end it quickly because if Vegeta is given enough time, he will definitely … The problem with Goku vs. Superman is there is no incarnation of Superman that is 100% evenly matched against Goku. Who Will Prevail?!") Vegeta then cripples Goku’s body and Goku manages to let off one energy blast in Vegeta’s eye before saying he can no longer move any part of his body. Watch Dragon Ball Super Episode 46, Goku vs. Duplicated Vegeta! Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. 7 Goku And Vegeta: Better Fighting … Obviously, Supes would win that fight and obliterate Goku. Trunks, Goten, Potage and Jaco fly to where Duplicate Gryll was knocked to, but see that he is gone, and so is Commeson's core. SSJ2 Vegeta could fight more on par with Kid Boo than Fat Boo, and Fat Boo wasn’t even trying to win nor using much of his power. Now stop spreading the whole “Kid Boo is strongest Boo” thing, people. Goku uses Instant Transmission to constantly teleport around Duplicate Vegeta and lands an attack on him, and starts turning the battle in his favor. 0. Goku must then use the Kaio-Ken times 3 just to surpass Vegeta. It is in their genes. But Goku only won the fight because he got help from Krillin and Gohan, Vegeta couldn’t have lost it if he had the chance to fight Goku one-on-one. Let's see, Dialga's very heartbeat keeps time going onwards. Goku battling Kid Boo as SSJ2 was anime exclusive filler. He could leap tall buildings and outrun speeding bullets and that was about the peak of his power. Again to prove the point, SSJ2 Vegeta at full power (even detonating his own body) didn’t even phase Fat Boo. 1 Winner: Thanos Thanos is superior to the Saiyan Prince in the most important aspects of the fight, which is strength, regeneration skills, intelligence, and weapons. Fight was already put on hold when Vegeta knocked Goku out. King Kai warned Goku that Vegeta would be too strong. Goku and Vegeta are very strong and it wouldn't be easy to break them down emotionally by the use of telepathy but Galactus and Silver Surfer won't race unless they try it out. Goku… After turning into Kid Boo, Goku and Vegeta laugh and poke fun at Kid Boo’s demeanor and chi, as he has become significantly weaker, knowing that they could kill this Boo. Katsu no wa dotchida! Trunks remembers that the main body was Duplicate Gryll, whom Duplicate Vegeta defeated earlier. To top it all off, Vegeta says Goku at full power SSJ3 COULD have completely obliterated Kid Boo, to which Goku agreed. Goku also possesses the ability to fly, a power unseen in Naruto. He states Vegeta is far from finished and Yajirobe should run before he returns, which he does. As I’ve explained to others, having no access to your power is not the same as not having the power. Much to everyone's surprise, Duplicate Vegeta also transforms. Battle. SSB Goku vs. SSJ4 Goku would most likely be a draw. Characters Battles Teams Super Powers Forum Feed Collections. That instantly nullifies any and all chance of an equal battle between the two. Goku stated many times Vegeta was too much for him. All their power derives from chi. As an example, chi is the name of the energy Goku and the other Z fighters use. The SSJ3 transformation burns energy so fast that Goku couldn’t keep it up in a living body, as opposed to when they were like…pure soul or whatever earlier on in that arc. Saiyan Saga Round 3: (Free-for-All) Vegeta loses Overall Earth wins, Goku stated that he would beat Vegeta next time, giving Vegeta the win but in Vegeta's mind, he still lost to Goku. In a fight, Goku would utilize ki based attacks while also relying on his martial art skills. Goku uses Instant Transmission to constantly teleport around Duplicate Vegeta and lands an attack on him, and starts turning the battle in his favor. Speed. who would win between MUI goku and super saiyan blue evolution vegeta vs full power naruto and sasuke ( sorry but idk what their full power is) Press J to jump to the feed. When Goku arrives back on Earth to face Vegeta and Nappa, Vegeta states that Goku’s combat level is 8,000 (Yes, 8000, not 9000 like that one bad dub said). That should mean that in Trunks' time line there must have been another Trunks coming from his future to tell about Goku black but that can't be since 1. : then trunks would have already known about Goku black in his future time line since the future future trunks appeared already (l and 2. : that would also end in an endless … Which One Is Going to Win?!" Vegeta powers up and launches off a Galick Gun that would’ve been somewhere between a power level of 24,000 and 32,000, as Goku’s ONLY way of overpowering it was using a 4x Kaio Ken, pushing him to 32,000, enough to counter Vegeta’s Galick Gun. Goku vs Vegeta: Who won the first battle? Vegeta then begins to argue with his copy about his sloppy style of fighting. This already puts Vegeta at a higher power level, demonstrated when he makes a plaything out of Goku in the first phase of their battle. Goku can only fight at peak power for a couple minutes before needing to power down out of exhaustion (refer to his battle against Kid Boo and the drain of SSJ3.) That is irrelevant to DB characters. The entire events of this episode were exclusive to the anime. Durability. Now to the meat and potatoes: Saying Broly could beat any form of Boo is literally saying Broly>Boo + SSJ3 Goku despite that SSJ1 Goku + power-up>Broly. SOS from the Future: A Dark New Enemy Appears! The Majin Charm was a potential unlock, so even after he died, Vegeta kept that power and with that power and Goku are dead even and Vegeta outright said SSJ2 Goku was stronger than SSJ2 Kid Gohan. Grandpa Gohan names him “Son Goku”. Naruto enacts his Sage Mode and sends various shadow clones running at Goku with each clone holding a Rasengan. Doesn't matter Goku was still alive and conscious: without outside help he was unable to do anything. Follow 58. That Kai’s goodness combined with Fat Boo losing the ability to summon all of his power due to de-evolution inside the cocoon for so long led Fat Boo to not being able to draw upon all of his power. So, in that instance, Goku would demolish Superman in just about any stage of his life. Meanwhile, in the annihilated Alternate Timeline, Future Trunks is exhausted from running, until a blast of light surprises him. Vegeta gets up, completely tattered and torn, and says he’ll use the last of his power to kill every one of them before heading back to Freeza’s ship to recover. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts But then you get bias and unfair advantages. Buu’s main strong point is their instant regeneration that comes from being a blob monster in humanoid form. I don’t feel the need to post a manga scan for this because it’s a pretty obvious thing to deduce even without it. Now that we’ve established Vegeta had a clear and complete victory over Goku, the question still remains: Why did Goku enter the fight? Goku (Base/Super Saiyan Blue) vs. Why is that? Menace of the Duplicate Vegeta! Vegeta decisively wins. When Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta, Goku survived as he was being sent to Earth. Menace of the Duplicate Vegeta! Its original American airdate was January 13, 2018. Close. Monaka, who is "waking up", nonchalantly steps on Commeson's core behind him, which damages it along with Duplicate Vegeta. 勝つのはどっちだ!? Contrary to popular belief, Goku did not fight Kid Boo as SSJ2, instead opting to immediately go SSJ3. This means that Kid Boo was at multiple planet bursting power and by absorbing the powers of the four Kai’s, reverted to the fat and innocent state due to the overwhelming goodness of the final Kai. It's not really unfair that Vegeta had his tail. However, why would Goku and Vegeta laugh at Kid Boo if he got stronger? English airdate Posted by 3 hours ago. Most of your debate right here has been disproven previously on my blog. Kid Goku vs Vegeta. Vegeta: Agh! Goku and Duplicate Vegeta wonder who's side Vegeta is on. It isn’t until Gohan goes Oozaru by pure accident that Vegeta is finally beaten and left helpless and has to retaliate to fight another day. So, here we go: It’s common knowledge both SSJ3 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta could NOT beat Gohan absorbed Boo (also known as Boohan) without fusing together into Vegerot, so we can safely say Boohan is stronger than both Goku and Vegeta alone. He knew he wasn’t going to win and decided to do all he could to weaken Vegeta. This literally states Kid Boo was weaker than SSJ3 Goku if he could have killed Kid Boo at full power. The problem is that Goku wasn’t really trying in the first fight with Buu because they wanted Gotenks to do it, and then when they had to be the one to do it(with Vegeta), they were brought back to life. Duplicate Vegeta fires a barrage of energy blasts at Goku, who manages to block them. We don’t know how either fighter would be in the others universe or what powers they would or wouldn’t have. Many people believe Teen Gohan is an incorrect fan term for the Gohan from the Cell Games saga since he is 11, as said in many games and the Funimation dub, however, he is neither 11 nor a teen during the Cell Games. Potage tells Vegeta to chew on the key to Commeson, as it could earn him a little time, which the Saiyan prince does. After Yajirobe removes Vegeta’s tail, he states he STILL has enough power to kill every last one of them, demonstrating it by knocking out Yajirobe and Krillin and then going after Gohan. Vegeta "defeated" Goku AFTER the battle so it doesn't count, and even though we all know SSJ3 Goku would've wiped the floor with Vegeta this never happened so we can't call Goku … Vegeta Disappears?! Vegeta starts getting frustrated that Duplicate Veget… SSJ2 Kid Gohan vs. SSJ2 Post-Majin Vegeta? Jaco then trips, and Commeson is approaching him, but it evades Jaco and begins chasing the others. It’s his DNA. First off, Broly is non-canon so, by canonical standpoints, Boo wins simply because he’s an actual character in the official DB universe. Goku vs. the Duplicate Vegeta! As the manga shows, Super Boo in any form was stronger than SSJ3 Goku but Kid Boo was weaker. He also broke space and time barriers in a fight, survived a supernova that destroyed the planet he was on, got hit by a nuclear blast after being exposed to massive amounts of kryptonite, and kept fighting non-stop for several days on end. They’re two different fighters, in different universes, obeying a different set of space/time laws, using different power scalings, and different attacks. There is no way to have Goku and Superman fight as equals. SHDb; uStats; Intelligence. You can’t take a movie character who lost to a powered up SSJ1 and say he could destroy a villain who could beat a max power SSJ3 Goku. After landing on Earth, the young Saiyan was found in the woods by an old man named Gohan and became his adopted grandson. ?, lit. You’re always going to have a Superman that is either too strong or too weak against Goku, unfairly giving one an advantage. Vegeta charges at Goku. No spirit fusion. Aesop. Goku was done, beat and couldn’t move at all to fight. Monaka accidentally destroys the Commensons Core allowing Goku the chance to destroy the Duplicate Vegeta. Really think about that. This means Kid Boo is, by canon, immensely weaker than Fat Boo, and weaker than Super Boo since Super Boo had Gohan/Gotenks/Piccolo adding to his power. "Goku vs Copy-Vegeta! Do you honestly believe Super Boo (even with Gohan absorbed) had more power than Kid Boo’s power level + 4x Freeza one shotting power? Trunks notices that Vegeta's ki is disappearing, and quickly flies to him, and Goten follows. Goku was NOT strong enough to beat Fat Boo. This heavily points to the fact Kid Boo got significantly weaker than Super Boo and Goku and Vegeta felt they were finally on even playing ground. Every other Saigon Vs Goku and Vegeta. Goku vs Vegeta = Goku lost, was out of the battle. !, on Crunchyroll. SSJ1 Goku even with said power-up was not on SSJ2 power level standings, much less SSJ3. This saga is TV Original and not based on the manga. Supreme Kai also states every Kai that Boo absorbed had the power to beat Freeza in a single punch. Jaco points out that Vegeta is even more transparent than before. Broly was born on Planet Vegeta around the same time as Prince Vegeta and Goku, but even as a baby, Broly’s power level was abnormally high - so high that King Vegeta exiled … 0. Superman vs. Goku: Why It’s A Pointless Debate. Who will win in a fight between Kid Goku and Vegeta? Japanese Name This why in the final battle with Kid Buu, Goku was SSJ1/2 most of the time, and would temporarily pop into SSJ3 from time to time. Vegeta even points out that all the enemies Supreme Kai says are powerful have been very little effort to dispose of and that Boo overall had less power due to being locked away in the cocoon. Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to … Are you tired of all the biased arguments in regards to Goku vs. Superman? 悟空VS複製ベジータ! Compared to Goku, Vegeta's relationship with Sonic was that of co-workers who got along well enough, but didn't really interact with each other all that much. Goku begins his battle to the death with Duplicate Vegeta, and they turn out to be evenly matched. Do you think he simply fought for the challenge? However, after Goku privately tells him of Sonic's fate and his desire to save him from it if he can, Vegeta begins paying more attention to Sonic throughout the final battle of … Now stop spreading the whole “Broly is strongest character” thing. So we can tell that, when Goku and Vegeta first met, Vegeta … Z fighters vs Vegeta = Vegeta lost, couldn’t fight or move … They wouldn’t have. Super Saiyan 3>Buu, in terms of pure power. On top of that, Thanos' skin is built like a rock … Vegeta tells Goku that he cannot beat him with attacks like that, as Duplicate Vegeta aggressively pushes Goku back. 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