It was his lack of stamina that let him down ultimately. He's beyond his normal limits when fighting in Ultimate. However, at his 100% strength, Frieza is stronger than Cooler. He said that Gohan is indeed the "strongest non-fused dragonball character." The fact that not one example of Gohan fighting as a Super Saiyan while in Ultimate can be cited proves this. He lost against the yardrat when Frieza murdered him. His base form was still stronger than Piccolo, and I belive Piccolo was a good bit stronger than all their base forms back in the Buu Arc. tl;dr Super Saiyan 3 Goku is stronger than Ultimate Gohan. If Kid Buu is the strongest Buu according to both English AND Japanese versions of what Kabitokai says and Goku is able to compete on an even level with Kid Buu, while Gohan lost to an inferior Buu, Goku is therefore stronger than Gohan. What is strange about this entry is that by the end of Dragon Ball Z, Gohan is inarguably stronger than Goku with the use of his Ultimate form. The fact of the matter is, that Mystic form takes Gohan to his ultimate limit, to a power further than any Super Saiyan form could give him (including 3, being stronger than SS3 Goku) while replacing the reflex to actually go Super Saiyan entirely. Gohan's plan is to get stronger by focusing on his Ultimate form, which means that he's unlikely to ever achieve - or even attempt to achieve - the Super Saiyan God or Super Saiyan Blue transformations. at as new Super Saiyan levels were introduced. Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner buy $30M Florida property. Ultimate Gohan is just Gohan with his potential unlocked, he can't get stronger than that naturally, but utilizing forms and skills like the Kaio-ken, and Super Saiyan forms would multiply his power. Vegeta did mention that Goku was stronger than Gohan âwasâ at his maximum, which would refer to Gohanâs power during the Cell games, right? Ultimate Gohan is a transformation achieved by Son Gohan after Elder KaiÅshin unlocked his potential. Frieza managed to put up a much better fight against Super Saiyan Goku. Overview. This is the Gohan that fought against the Future Androids from Android Saga Z, which came at a hefty price -- the loss of his arm and ultimately, his death.. Like most adult Gohan variants, he has an indomitable fighting spirit and remains a resilient Fighter from the start until the bitter end. After an entire arc of being definitively weaker than Super Saiyan 3 Goku, Trunks is able to tap into some mix of God Ki and go head to head with Goku Black, a character with God level power. Gohan is one of Dragon Ball's strongest Saiyans and his most intimidating form is Ultimate Gohan, where he doesn't even go Super Saiyan to extract the full potential of his energy. This was when prime once again to reign supreme but Gohan was absorbed by Super Buu. Although originally introduced as a mild-mannered and easily scared child, Gohan harbors an immense, limitless potential that surpasses that of his father. RELATED: 10 Marvel Supervillains Stronger Than Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions Son Gohan is the eldest son of Son Goku and Chi-Chi, and one of the primary heroes of the second half of Dragon Ball. Daishokaioshin 04:33, 15 March 2006 (UTC) âWasâ would have been replaced with âIsâ if Gohanâs power level was same during the SSJ 2 Goku vs ⦠Ultimate Gohan (Anime) vs Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Movie #13) Discussion in 'Dragon Ball' started by Fang, Feb 22, 2017. This is anime Gohan from the TV series in Z vs movie #13 Super Saiyan 3 Goku. This is how I think it works: Gotenks - 250 bill (Super Saiyan 3) Gohan - 300 bill (Ultimate) Super Boo - 235 bill (regular) - 487 bill (Bootenks) - 232 bill (Booccolo) Featured: Football (Soccer) Music Pokémon Trading Movies Cyberpunk 2077 PlayStation 4 Sports Computer Hardware AC:NH Showcases and Work Logs Thinker's Lounge Super Smash Bros. Gohan had the potential to surpass his father, seeing how he was able to go Super Saiyan 2 before Goku could, but he let his motherâs influence get the best of him. Gohan's record in Super: 1) got wrecked by first form Frieza in RoF 2) struggled against Frieza's henchman 3) tied with Basil (fodder) 4) lost to Krillin 5) ⦠To say that Brolli's transformation is "equal to a Super Saiyan 3" just because he was stronger than Gohan in his Super Saiyajin 2 form, doesn't make sense. The whole "I don't need to become Super Saiyan anymore" stuff was never a thing there. One of my take aways are that super Saiyan 2 ultimate GOHAN is stronger than Super Saiyan God Goku. Explanation: Stated to be the "full release" of the Super Saiyan transformation, meaning it is stronger than Super Saiyan Grade III which is 500x base form. Boomstick: Gohan is stronger than that. Which is stronger: Super Saiyan God, or Super Saiyan 4? ... Also if there is gonna be a Super saiyan blue 2. Super Saiyan Rage is a bit of a controversial form, in large part due to how Future Trunks obtains it. The overall highest power level officially stated was 5,300,000,000 for Frieza's power level in Dragon Ball Z: The Real 4-D. In the following blog, we would learn how Gohan transformed into Ultimate Gohan or should I say Mystic Gohan. This would mean that Gohan's Mystic form, as the author himself stated, is meant to be the most powerful "nonfused" character on the protagonist side of the characters in the Dragonball Z series. Gohan achieved the Mystic form which is even stronger than Gokuâs Super Saiyan 3 yeah you heard it right the Mystic Gohan is way more powerful than the Super Saiyan 3 Goku. For further proof, the Daizenshuu 2 clearly states that Ultimate Gohan can go Super Saiyan, and doing that would make him even stronger that Buuhan. There is no Ultimate Super Saiyan. So him going Super Saiyan could theoretically be no weaker than Ultimate Gohan from the Buu Arc in terms of power. So adding Super Saiyan Blue (750,000,000,000) and Kaioken X10 (30,000,000) we can estimate that Goku's power in Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken is 750,030,000,000%. Messages: 169,759 Likes Received: 5,330 Trophy Points: 6,857 Joined: Mar 19, 2006. This makes Gohan's Mystic form stronger than the Super Saiyan 3 form of Goku. Of course not, Gohan is weaker than base form Frieza bro. Which propelled him past Super Saiyan 3 Goku, Super Buu and even a fusion in Gotenks. Though Gohan had gotten much weaker due to not training after the Cell Games, he became stronger than he ever has after his potential was unlocked from Old KaiÅ-shin. Ultimate ⦠Super Saiyajin 3, and the other transformations, don't provide a fixed power level to the user. He actually managed to get a few hits in. Super saiyan 1 is a ⦠@jonsnowysnow: One thing I do agree with you is that ssj3 Goku is stronger than ssj Gotenks.But imo mystic Gohan is definitely above ssj3 Goku. All you need to do is cite Gotenks Boo and Beerus. This is made clear by how Super Saiyan 3 ⦠... Gohan and Krillin were majorly screwed too. So actually Gohan is the stronger one. In the video I explain why GOHAN ⦠After ⦠If Final Form Frieza was able to take out Ultimate Gohan easily, that implies that Goku's base form is now stronger than Ultimate Gohan, Super Buu, and even Buu Saga Super Saiyan 3⦠At first glance you may not think there's enough information on the table to even have this debate: Super Saiyan ⦠Gohan managed to achieve the transformation by getting under Elder Kaiâs odd training. 1 2 3 Goku is the first to transform into a Super Saiyan in a 1000 years. 1 Attack Dialogues 1.1 Super Attack 1.2 Meteor Attack 2 Match Dialogues 2.1 Sparking 2.2 Team Dialogues 2.3 Match Reset 2.4 Shenron 3 Miscellaneous Dialogues 3.1 Character Selection 3.2 Intro 3.3 Victory 3.4 Defeat 3.5 Results Screen 4 Navigation An asterisk (*) ⦠Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Fang. Despite appearing to be in his normal state, Gohan, in actuality, is using the power of Super Saiyan 2 without the burden the latter transformation places on his body. Gohan with this power up was even stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku and Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks since he was able to dominate Super Buu with ease without transforming. With that, any real dominance came to an end. 25-50% stronger than Super Boo is about the range where Gohan should fall, if he was anything closer, Bootenks wouldn't have been able to stomp him as easily as he does. base gotenks pre is stronger than SSJ1 teen gohan, gotenks survived against fat buu and escape while SSJ1 gohan couldn't survive or escape. This video is a review of Dragon Ball Super Episode 90. How much stronger is Super Saiyan Blue than SS3? 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